Alright ![:thumbsup:]( "Thumbs-up")
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Re: What new features do you want?
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Re: KTF
@ Celticknits. ... what's wrong with the first 8 spins?
4-5 hits on rng is suicide. No idea why.
3 is max to make profit.
On Airball 3 hits are perfectly possible. ..
Go figure. ...![:o]( "Shocked")
4-5 hits on rng is suicide. No idea why.
3 is max to make profit.
On Airball 3 hits are perfectly possible. ..
Go figure. ...
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Re: KTF
@ Celticknits. ... what's wrong with the first 8 spins?
4-5 hits on rng is suicide. No idea why.
3 is max to make profit.
On Airball 3 hits are perfectly possible. ..
Go figure. ...
-Denzie
Nothing is the matter with the first 8 spins if you are playing KTF because there is nothing you can do about them but ride the wave or quit but remember I am only playing the repeats and by resetting I am eliminating most of the repeats that show up in the second set of 10 numbers which is where I am watching the count and looking for the opportunity to start betting.
-Celtic
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Re: KTF
Jackpot247.com 15.3.16 KTF +42 #14
Celticknits think you'll like theseCode: [Select]jackpotjoy 15.3.16
1 22
2 4
3 0
4 27
5 9
6 1
7 0
8 12
9 8
10 12
11 9
12 3
13 9
14 29
15 31
16 6
17 34
18 21
19 33
20 14
21 32
22 31
23 3
24 8
25 34
26 11
27 28
28 7
29 30
30 4
31 24
32 13
33 16
34 35
35 14
36 17
37 11
38 11
39 36
40 3
41 4
42 24
43 23
44 7
45 2
46 25
47 10
48 25
49 23
50 18
51 20
52 3
53 30
54 33
55 34
56 36
57 31
58 3
59 11
60 36
61 6
62 28
63 33
64 6
65 17
66 22
67 0
-Notto
Oh yeah!!!
+$84 in 5 spins
Gotta love it.
-Celtic
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Lucky Strike
This one came about me playing and testing some random bets and to my suprise it worked better than i thought...it's 15 numbers bet, Flatbet. (For live-wheels only!)
Procedure: Use the function that all roulette tables have to bet one number and it's two neighbours-- Bet the last 3 numbers and it's two neighbours from the history of spins (NOT the current number hit, but starting with the second newest number hit)... 5+5+5 numbers bet. if any one number is already covered by a bet, bet the next oldest from the history of spins, (until 15 numbers bet) Do two spins, then STOP, then begin anew.
First test was played with 1u bets, (wingoal +100u, stoploss -100u)
7/10 Games won
(and that is good stats being FLATBET imo)
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16722.0
Procedure: Use the function that all roulette tables have to bet one number and it's two neighbours-- Bet the last 3 numbers and it's two neighbours from the history of spins (NOT the current number hit, but starting with the second newest number hit)... 5+5+5 numbers bet. if any one number is already covered by a bet, bet the next oldest from the history of spins, (until 15 numbers bet) Do two spins, then STOP, then begin anew.
First test was played with 1u bets, (wingoal +100u, stoploss -100u)
7/10 Games won
(and that is good stats being FLATBET imo)
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16722.0
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Re: Deja Vu?
Hi,
Another day - and another *NEW* Blackjack system unveiled from Mr. Silverthorne and Associates!
http://www.gamblersbookcase.com/BattleBlackjack/
This one purportedly based on military attack principles to overcome the game...
However, my spidey sixth sense is tingling and I uncover that this is yet a STILL FURTHER alias of the already available:
"The Bulgarian Trap"
A.K.A.
"Shark Attack Blackjack"
A.K.A.
"System Q Blackjack"
Don't be fooled.
Take care,
A.
Another day - and another *NEW* Blackjack system unveiled from Mr. Silverthorne and Associates!
http://www.gamblersbookcase.com/BattleBlackjack/
This one purportedly based on military attack principles to overcome the game...
However, my spidey sixth sense is tingling and I uncover that this is yet a STILL FURTHER alias of the already available:
"The Bulgarian Trap"
A.K.A.
"Shark Attack Blackjack"
A.K.A.
"System Q Blackjack"
Don't be fooled.
Take care,
A.
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Re: KTF
Jackpot247.com 16.03.16 KTF +43 #4
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jackpotjoy 16.3.16
1 21
2 22
3 26
4 25
5 27
6 17
7 27
8 15
9 3
10 33
11 13
12 36
13 21
14 19
15 6
16 18
17 21
18 30
19 19
20 4
21 4
22 7
23 36
24 23
25 33
26 34
27 31
28 14
29 1
30 3
31 22
32 10
33 17
34 10
35 24
36 27
37 18
38 16
39 36
40 8
41 6
42 15
43 21
44 6
45 28
46 14
47 31
48 25
49 17
50 34
51 5
52 20
53 22
54 9
55 15
56 12
57 2
58 9
59 30
60 22
61 11
62 17
63 10
64 31
65 22
66 17
67 30
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Re: The Rookie King Martingale Method
Thank you simon
Extremely stressful to make a house work on long island
Property tax is a 2nd mortgage
Extremely stressful to make a house work on long island
Property tax is a 2nd mortgage
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Re: Dont Knock it till you try it
On todays Jackpot247 16.3.16 #'s
Could see the dozen repeated at the start, but the good old +1/-1 with parley till back to 1-1 did the job.
Could see the dozen repeated at the start, but the good old +1/-1 with parley till back to 1-1 did the job.
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spin #span doz doz-doz to bet +1/-1 stake return total out total return Running total
1 21 2
2 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 2 0 -2
3 26 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 6 6 0
4 25 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 10 6 -4
5 27 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 16 6 -10
6 17 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 24 18 -6
7 27 3 1-3 4-4 8 12 32 30 -2
8 15 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 38 39 1
9 3 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 44 48 4
10 33 3 2-3 2-2 4 6 48 54 6
11 13 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 52 60 8
12 36 3 1-3 1-1 2 3 54 63 9
13 21 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 56 66 10
14 19 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 58 66 8
15 6 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 62 72 10
16 18 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 66 78 12
17 21 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 68 78 10
18 30 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 72 84 12
19 19 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 76 90 14
20 4 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 78 93 15
21 4 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 80 93 13
22 7 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 84 93 9
23 36 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 90 102 12
24 23 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 96 111 15
25 33 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 100 117 17
26 34 3 1-2 2-2 4 0 104 117 13
27 31 3 1-2 3-3 6 0 110 117 7
28 14 2 1-2 4-4 8 12 118 129 11
29 1 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 126 141 15
30 3 1 2-3 3-3 6 0 132 141 9
31 22 2 2-3 4-4 8 12 140 153 13
32 10 1 1-3 4-4 8 12 148 165 17
33 17 2 2-3 3-3 6 9 154 174 20
34 10 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 160 183 23
35 24 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 164 189 25
36 27 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 168 195 27
37 18 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 170 198 28
38 16 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 172 198 26
39 36 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 176 204 28
40 8 1 1-2 2-2 4 6 180 210 30
41 6 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 182 210 28
42 15 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 186 216 30
43 21 2 1-3 2-2 4 0 190 216 26
44 6 1 1-3 3-3 6 9 196 225 29
45 28 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 202 234 32
46 14 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 206 240 34
47 31 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 210 246 36
48 25 3 1-2 1-1 2 0 212 246 34
49 17 2 1-2 2-2 4 6 216 252 36
50 34 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 220 258 38
51 5 1 1-2 1-1 2 6 222 264 42
52 20 2 2-3 1-1 2 3 224 267 43
53 22 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 226 267 41
54 9 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 230 273 43
55 15 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 234 279 45
56 12 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 236 282 46
57 2 1 2-3 1-1 2 0 238 282 44
58 9 1 2-3 2-2 4 0 242 282 40
59 30 3 2-3 3-3 6 9 248 291 43
60 22 2 1-2 3-3 6 9 254 300 46
254 300 46
61 11 1 1-3 2-2 4 6 258 306 48
62 17 2 2-3 2-2 4 6 262 312 50
63 10 1 1-3 1-1 2 3 264 315 51
64 31 3 2-3 1-1 2 3 266 318 52
65 22 2 1-2 1-1 2 3 268 321 53
66 17 2 1-3 1-1 2 0 270 321 51
67 30 3 1-3 2-2 4 6 274 327 53
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Re: KTF
Yesterdays excursion to the B&M.
American 00 wheel.
This would have been the KTF outcome.
I have come to the conclusion that one of the reasons I have done EXTREMELY well with this is my patience in waiting for a good count before betting the repeats.
-Celtic
American 00 wheel.
This would have been the KTF outcome.
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S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 10
2 36
3 15
4 0
5 27
6 29
7 34
8 33
9 1
10 22
11 32 28 1 28 36 8 8
12 3 27 1 27 36 9 17
13 16 26 1 26 36 10 27
14 27 R 25 1 25 -25 2
15 26 25 2 50 72 22 24
16 25 24 1 24 36 12 36------ Would have quit here -----------
17 9 23 1 23 36 13 49
18 15 R 22 1 22 -22 27
19 2 22 2 44 72 28 55
20 21 21 1 21 36 15 70
21 6 20 1 20 36 16 86-------Count is 8+3 ---- Started betting repeats ---
22 16 R 19 1 19 -19 67
23 36 R 19 2 38 -38 29
24 15 R 19 3 57 -57 -28
25 16 R 19 4 76 -76 -104
26 34 R 19 5 95 -95 -199
27 29 R 19 6 114 -114 -313
28 31 19 7 133 252 119 -194
29 9 R 18 6 108 -108 -302
30 19 18 7 126 252 126 -176
I have come to the conclusion that one of the reasons I have done EXTREMELY well with this is my patience in waiting for a good count before betting the repeats.
-Celtic
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Re: KTF
Notto: and surely I respect that. It is not that I am not disapproving anything you do, I just want to make sense out of it. But so far your strategy has been paying off so no complaints ![;D]( "Grin")
Good luck!
Foolwise: that looks really interesting. Do you think you would be able incorporate bankroll progression for all the 1600 trials? Than look at box 2,3,4. In how many of the trials would you end up with $40+ and how many trials do not reach 40$ and eventually will bust putting the tresshold at $-400. Omitting the human factor that tells us when to quite or not, just looking at raw data. Do you see that the total of $40+ trials when accumulated is larger than the total of losses? What does it tell you? I am also interested whether there is a difference for 7/10, 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10. Furthermore I am interested how the winnings are distributed over box 1 (11-20), 2(21-30), 3(31-40). Would you be capable of looking into that? I think that would provide us with some sort of proof right, and moreover first step towards creating some rules. I think for example if we could say that when 9/10 and you have 2/3 hits on 11-15 you should continue betting because the odds are in your favor by x%. What do you think? In the end we cannot predict something that is randomized, however you can try to benefit from certain trends and progression of numbers. Atleast that is what I think
Good luck!Foolwise: that looks really interesting. Do you think you would be able incorporate bankroll progression for all the 1600 trials? Than look at box 2,3,4. In how many of the trials would you end up with $40+ and how many trials do not reach 40$ and eventually will bust putting the tresshold at $-400. Omitting the human factor that tells us when to quite or not, just looking at raw data. Do you see that the total of $40+ trials when accumulated is larger than the total of losses? What does it tell you? I am also interested whether there is a difference for 7/10, 8/10, 9/10 and 10/10. Furthermore I am interested how the winnings are distributed over box 1 (11-20), 2(21-30), 3(31-40). Would you be capable of looking into that? I think that would provide us with some sort of proof right, and moreover first step towards creating some rules. I think for example if we could say that when 9/10 and you have 2/3 hits on 11-15 you should continue betting because the odds are in your favor by x%. What do you think? In the end we cannot predict something that is randomized, however you can try to benefit from certain trends and progression of numbers. Atleast that is what I think
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.
Thanks and I will follow your advice on that closing bankroll. I was trying to run through the zumma books and it really took me for a bite. Afterall, I can now see why Mogul says its not working for him on the Zumma. May be I should try spins from somewhere else.
The zumma 15000 started like this and it is very volatile. May be I should try spins from somewhere else![:(]( "Sad")
Session 1 +9u
Session 2 +15u
Session 3 -50u
Session 4 +3u
Session 5 +21u
Session 6 -112u
Session 7 -34u
The zumma 15000 started like this and it is very volatile. May be I should try spins from somewhere else
Session 1 +9u
Session 2 +15u
Session 3 -50u
Session 4 +3u
Session 5 +21u
Session 6 -112u
Session 7 -34u
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Re: KTF
I will try guvnor. Not now though, as I am bit short of time. But this is a very interesting one for me and I will send updates as soon as am able to do something about this.
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.
@Foowise
thank you as you are an independant tester
a good system mut work the same almost on every kind od real spin
i think that your test is close to the reality
and per haps celescliff have been lucky too mutch
but let s continue your test we follow you Foolwise
and thank you again celescliff for your system
thank you as you are an independant tester
a good system mut work the same almost on every kind od real spin
i think that your test is close to the reality
and per haps celescliff have been lucky too mutch
but let s continue your test we follow you Foolwise
and thank you again celescliff for your system
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Re: 1-4 numbers with MM.
Thanks and I will follow your advice on that closing bankroll. I was trying to run through the zumma books and it really took me for a bite. Afterall, I can now see why Mogul says its not working for him on the Zumma. May be I should try spins from somewhere else.
The zumma 15000 started like this and it is very volatile. May be I should try spins from somewhere else
Session 1 +9u
Session 2 +15u
Session 3 -50u
Session 4 +3u
Session 5 +21u
Session 6 -112u
Session 7 -34u
@Foowise
thank you as you are an independant tester
a good system mut work the same almost on every kind od real spin
i think that your test is close to the reality
and per haps celescliff have been lucky too mutch
but let s continue your test we follow you Foolwise
and thank you again celescliff for your system
Thanks guys.
I agree with roulettefan that it must work on every kind of real spins. Then again, the people that has shared their results and experience with this to me has not resemble the results you're having, Foowise, so it's not just me that has been lucky. I myself play online with live dealer, real money and some has played this at B&M casino, with similar results as mine. Even RNG has been tested with this. None has had -112u. I don't have the zumma myself so I can't look at it.
I must say though, that this can work with other bet selections aswell, it's the BR control that's the core in this.
Let's see how it goes and thank you guys again.
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Re: KTF
Jackpot247.com 18.3.16 KTF +40
Hi RG a thousand units handles this game to the end where it wins +108, but me i'd be happy with the +40Code: [Select]spin # non hit prog units win (+/-)
0 37
1 24 36
2 17 35
3 20 34
4 26 33
5 5 32
6 8 31
7 17 r
8 5 r
9 13 30 stake
10 22 29 non-hit return
11 23 28 1 29 36 7
12 9 27 1 28 36 15
13 29 26 1 27 36 24
14 24 r 1 26 0 -2
15 1 25 2 52 72 18
16 24 r 1 25 0 -7
17 13 r 2 50 0 -57
18 31 24 3 75 108 -24
19 23 r 2 48 0 -72
20 32 23 3 72 108 -36
21 20 r 2 46 0 -82
22 21 22 3 69 108 -43
23 2 21 2 44 72 -15
24 19 20 1 21 36 0
25 2 r 1 20 0 -20
26 19 r 2 40 0 -60
27 4 19 3 60 108 -12
28 35 18 2 38 72 22
29 12 17 1 18 36 40 stop
30 2 r 1 17 0 23
31 22 r 2 34 0 -11
32 12 r 3 51 0 -62
33 31 r 4 68 0 -130
34 34 16 5 85 180 -35
35 17 r 4 64 0 -99
36 31 r 5 80 0 -179
37 14 15 6 96 216 -59
38 9 r 5 75 0 -134
39 32 r 6 90 0 -224
40 34 r 7 105 0 -329
41 32 r 8 120 0 -449
42 24 r 9 135 0 -584
43 24 r 10 150 0 -734
44 18 14 11 165 396 -503
45 18 r 10 140 0 -643
46 30 13 11 154 396 -401
47 36 12 10 130 360 -171
48 9 r 9 108 0 -279
49 10 11 10 120 360 -39
50 29 r 9 99 0 -138
51 14 r 10 110 0 -248
52 3 10 11 121 396 27
53 2 r 10 100 0 -73
54 35 r 11 110 0 -183
55 3 r 12 120 0 -303
56 9 r 13 130 0 -433
57 5 r 14 140 0 -573
58 28 9 15 150 540 -183
59 14 r 14 126 0 -309
60 9 r 15 135 0 -444
0 -444
61 25 8 16 144 576 -12
62 36 r 15 120 0 -132
63 30 r 16 128 0 -260
64 29 r 17 136 0 -396
65 15 7 18 144 648 108
66 12 r
Yes im seeing if you get close to being -100 you may sweat a bit but the unhits have to hit eventually and you rebound
Good man
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Re: KTF
@denzie
I'm a little curious about your 1 hit. When do you go for one hit? I mean what is your count?
If the count is +0 , +1 , +2 I go for 1 hit. Normally I start at spin 21. But here I wait till spin 23. If we didn't got a virtual hit then I go in. Make 1 hit and stop. Reset to new session.
How long is your progression? I understand that you are using +1/-1, but how many units before you stop?
As long it takes to get in profit. With a max of 420 units. (7 losses in a row). But let's say we get to high in the progression. Let's say at 5 or 6 units. And I get my hit. Then I look how much I'm down. If it's around -50 then I take the loss. Coz we get it back next session
How did it go for you on the online casinos, did it work?
Extremely good. Every day I gained 2-4 br
"Best thing I ever seen."
Yep, didn't saw anything like this. I not even bother to play my other stuff. Btw it's RNG
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Re: Four Legs Good...
Interesting play, ran this over a set of 120 spins..
11 wins > +22 units
2 losses > - 8 units
Net +14 units
Can a safe progression be applied here..
11 wins > +22 units
2 losses > - 8 units
Net +14 units
Can a safe progression be applied here..
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Re: KTF
Thanks @denzie for all your good answers!
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SnakeRider
This is 1-5 numbers bet. It's basically a repeaters system
Need help testing this one,
Procedure: Begin and bet first number that hits, now, all the remaining bets will be of the same color as that first bet.
Bet all numbers that hits of that same color, in a progressive bet, up til 5 numbers are bet. (1+1+1+1+1 numbers)
(no bet when the opposite color hits)
When 5 numbers are bet +1u bet and do 7 spins then STOP/Restart. (begin anew if no hit after 7 spins, with the current number hit)
STOP/restart at any hit, beginning anew with that single number hit.
(First tests was played with 5u bets)
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16730.0
Need help testing this one,
Procedure: Begin and bet first number that hits, now, all the remaining bets will be of the same color as that first bet.
Bet all numbers that hits of that same color, in a progressive bet, up til 5 numbers are bet. (1+1+1+1+1 numbers)
(no bet when the opposite color hits)
When 5 numbers are bet +1u bet and do 7 spins then STOP/Restart. (begin anew if no hit after 7 spins, with the current number hit)
STOP/restart at any hit, beginning anew with that single number hit.
(First tests was played with 5u bets)
Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16730.0
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