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Re: Golden Peak

August 9, 2016, 8:47 pm
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Have you ever seen a sequence like this: 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

Not exactly that, but its irrelevant. The probability of 1,1,1 is exactly the same as 1,2,3 or 1,1,2 or 2,2,2, or 3,2,1. The probability is not what makes roulette negative expectation - it's the unfair payouts for the odds.

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Today at 03:33:17 AM
Results are altering, thus a flexible bet selection which can be adjusted to the ever changing roulette flows is a must.

I'm not sure what you mean by "results are altering". And your reference to "flow" I assume means past spins like 1,1,1,1,1, but they have no influence on future spins, so no influence on the odds.
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Re: Golden Peak

August 9, 2016, 9:03 pm
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Here is my biggest issue.....what can happen vs. what won't happen and FINDING a middle ground. Meaning, that 23 hits after not hitting for 300 spins.

Could that 23 now go unhit again for the next 900 spins? Come on now. Lets drop the..."but it could happen" routine. I mean, anything CAN HAPPEN if we get super technical. Red might hit for 700 straight spins....but it could happen (lol). You cant BUILD a decent method based off that, its ludicrous.

Ken



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Re: POSITIVE EXPECTATION ON ROULETTE CAN BE PROVED MATHEMATICALLY!

August 9, 2016, 9:06 pm
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Re: Golden Peak

August 9, 2016, 9:14 pm
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The probability of 1,1,1 is exactly the same as 1,2,3 or 1,1,2 or 2,2,2, or 3,2,1.

So according to you this:
18
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8
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23
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10
33
18
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8
29
28
14
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25
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23
2
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25
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Has the same probability with that:
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Your probability is perfectly reasonable!
Who could argue with that!

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The probability is not what makes roulette negative expectation - it's the unfair payouts for the odds.

What it matters is to win, a minor profit because of the unfair payouts is still better than losing.
What makes us lose is the variance and not less profit.
It's like you are claiming that a business could be terminated because of the taxes!

I suggest you do the following experiment, place two bets simultaneously, one on red and the other on black, find out how long it would take to lose your bankroll.
While one who is doubling up continuously will lose his bankroll in just a few spins.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "results are altering". And your reference to "flow"

Perhaps you should buy a dictionary.

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I assume means past spins like 1,1,1,1,1, but they have no influence on future spins, so no influence on the odds.

They don't have to, everything is a cycle and history repeats again and again like a deja vous.
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Re: POSITIVE EXPECTATION ON ROULETTE CAN BE PROVED MATHEMATICALLY!

August 9, 2016, 9:15 pm
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Could you give your answer on that question?  Always good to know what you think
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Re: Golden Peak

August 10, 2016, 8:21 pm
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Quote from: Blue_Angel on Today at 02:49:54 AM
If I had bet during that time I could have won or lost, but I didn't, so I'm on 0.
When I'll return the next day I'm going to continue my method, the same thing regardless what happened while I was absent.
This kind of questions are pointless in my opinion.
Say you have an insider who gives you information, so during his/her shift saw 23 was missing.
How could you exploit such info?
Isn't fallacy?
If not, why?
How are you different from someone who bets black after 10 reds in a row?

I ask these types of questions for "you people". I already know the correct answer. I ask in order to know what you're thinking.

Ken
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Re: Golden Peak

August 10, 2016, 8:43 pm
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Quote from: MrJ on Today at 03:21:24 AM
I ask these types of questions for "you people". I already know the correct answer. I ask in order to know what you're thinking.

Ken

But you said that if you knew number 23 was missing for 300 spins and just hit, you would cream your pants from happiness.
Do you mind explaining how such fact could be exploited?
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Re: Golden Peak

August 10, 2016, 9:16 pm
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Quote from: Blue_Angel on Today at 03:43:24 AM
But you said that if you knew number 23 was missing for 300 spins and just hit, you would cream your pants from happiness.
Do you mind explaining how such fact could be exploited?

First, I dont use that word EXPLOITED (lol). Thats more for "you people".

Second, as I had posted, I would bet a certain way. No stupid progression. My way, my reasons as to why are my business. 

Ken
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Re: Golden Peak

August 10, 2016, 9:21 pm
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Quote from: psimoes on Yesterday at 10:21:32 PM
In the example posted above 1 32 4 4 12 isn´t more likely to happen than 11111. 1 32 4 4 11 for instance (note the 11 hit when it "should" have been the 12) doesn´t qualify. Close, but it´s not the same sequence. For that last 12 to hit there are 36 other numbers with identical probability to hit as well. And that happens with every number in that sequence.

11111 is a lot easier to think of as a bet selection. Tihe devil himself wouldn´t remember of testing for how many times  1 32 4 4 12 or whatever shows up in 10000000000 spins. 11111 instead seems "useful", or "relevant". But it´s no more than any specific sequence of x numbers.

Don´t delude yourselves.

And that's the way the cookie crumbles!
I'm surprised that some don't get this  ::)
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Re: Rare number sequences - are they relevant?

August 10, 2016, 9:25 pm
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I have a small analogy to this Steve. Here, we have the 0 and 00.

After a long time with neither zero hitting, I hear a lot....those zeros have not hit in a long damn time.

but what they won't mention (or notice), the 33 34 have also not hit in a long damn time as well. Noticing one thing and discarding everything else.

Ken
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Re: What strategy do you use?

August 11, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Re: What strategy do you use?

With American football there are a lot of variables.  Win/loss record, outdoor stadium/dome, natural grass/artificial turf, new player acquisitions/losses, the constantly updated injured reserve list, interconference rivalries, AFC/NFC matchups.......a...
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Re: Off Season Trades

August 11, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Re: Off Season Trades

The website of any team you're following will have this information. The Bleacher Report will have it too.  If it's a really big name with major ramifications like the Osweiller deal, the major networks will pick it up.

And Tejas......it's JJ Watts.

Ju...
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Re: Soccer Betting

August 11, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Re: Soccer Betting

I stick with U.S. based sports when I bet. It's enough just to follow football.....I don't have the time to immerse myself in soccer.

Although, it would be fun just to try it once.
Source: Re: Soccer Betting

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What To Look For

August 11, 2016, 7:00 pm
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What To Look For

If you're like me and like to try new B&M's, what do you look for in a casino before you walk in?

Me, I look at the landscaping, how well the exterior of the building is maintained and how many vehicles are in the parking lot on  Saturday night.  If e...
Source: What To Look For

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Re: Cash prize competition rules

August 11, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Re: Cash prize competition rules

Just a heads up, the deadline for the most productive members will be this upcoming Sunday midnight. Prizes are below.

Best overall contributor:
1st prize: $30
2nd prize: $20
3rd prize: $10
Source: Re: Cash prize competition rules

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Re: Selected quotes

August 12, 2016, 4:22 pm
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its the MATHS

August 12, 2016, 4:24 pm
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Re: its the MATHS

August 12, 2016, 5:18 pm
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Eliminator

August 12, 2016, 9:56 pm
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This is 12-15 numbers bet, FLATBET.

Trigger: Wait until numbers TWO of the same color hit. Now, you bet that those two of the same color will become three of the same color. -When a trigger comes, (two of the same) you bet all numbers EXCEPT the ones hit within the one or two doublesteets hit. Do ONE spin, then STOP.

For an example,

Numbers 3,12 RED hits (Trigger) Now you bet all REDs except those within doublestreet 1/6 & 7/12 i.e you DON'T bet numbers 1,3,5 & 7,9,12. (12 numbers bet)

Numbers 2,13 BLACK hits (Trigger) Now you bet all BLACKs except those within doublestreet 1/6 & 13/18 i.e you DON'T bet numbers 2,4,6 & 13,15,17. (12 numbers bet)

IF the trigger hits within the same DS, 15 numbers are bet (all of the same color, except those within the ds hit)

For an example: numbers 7,12 RED hits, now all REDs are bet except those within ds 7/12  (numbers 7,9,12 are NOT bet) 15 numbers bet.

First test was played with 1u bets,

3/3 Games won

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Re: Eliminator

August 12, 2016, 10:09 pm
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