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Re: KTF

February 19, 2016, 6:22 pm
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...but i just don't get the warm fuzzy fairness feeling-RG

Stay away from Main Street Group casinos.

Sun Palace still owes me $29.20 from October 2015 :q

They told me they sent my winnings twice in the mail....
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Re: KTF

February 19, 2016, 6:29 pm
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Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Today at 02:22:57 AM
...but i just don't get the warm fuzzy fairness feeling-RG

Stay away from Main Street Group casinos.

Sun Palace still owes me $29.20 from October 2015 :q

They told me they sent my winnings twice in the mail....

Not surprised.

No good rng US facing id say.....
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Re: Follow the trot

February 19, 2016, 6:40 pm
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I ran the first set of numbers as two seperate sessions using KTF.
Both won in area of $50 within 10 spins each game.

-Celtic
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Re: Follow the trot

February 19, 2016, 8:08 pm
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Second set of numbers treat as two seperate sessions.
Again two wins in first 10 spins of each using KTF.

So to sum up in these 4 sessions the net profit is a minimum of $200 using KTF.

-Celtic
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Re: repeats

February 19, 2016, 8:21 pm
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Hi RG

How many bets before you stop betting on that particular number?
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Turbo Genius

February 20, 2016, 7:30 pm
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hey

do you still play against the previous 4 dozens on a rolling basis or did you retire it?

thanks

Linkback: http://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16619.0
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Re: blackjack....this guy serious?

February 20, 2016, 9:37 pm
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Really aggressive. But yes some time it always works  >:D
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Re: Wheel Streets

February 20, 2016, 9:45 pm
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So, you're saying that the betselection doesn't matter?

If i would bet 6 random numbers, (or 2 streets) would produce the same result? No, that is not true, and that i have proven by testing betting the carpet-street neighbours vs. the wheel-street neighbours...
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Casino is the biggest loanshark

February 20, 2016, 10:32 pm
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You have to understand that Casino works in beautiful and nasty ways.

First they give you money. Double, triple, or maybe more and more...

And in any given day, they will take back the money plus interest which is your bankroll and maybe your saving money as an extra.

Everywhere I go, i hear same stories.

So how to prevent this? You have to use unmechanical system, don't be greedy, emotion control, n many factors.

If you can eliminate all the negative obstacles, you will become a winner and you have the right to call yourself a pro.

Source : Baccarat College ( Facebook Group )


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Re: The biggest issue with methods, please join in

February 20, 2016, 10:58 pm
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How I see the HE is that it would come to matter if we play constantly same numbers, same system combination.

Otherwise we fell victim of bad judgment and pushing progressions in the wrong time. And that is the monster "HE" of xxx %, which cleans our BR.

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Re: KTF

February 21, 2016, 3:32 pm
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Exactly
Remember that 50/60 is only an example of if you had to keep on playing,KTF
Watch that trot,like Azim said practice,practice. Keep in mind the avg for non-hit,try to remember what the max non-hit could take.
You watch the trot of 0x and 1x +>1x, watch the profit trot, remember the last high, you got to be watching.
Have you used countback.

Nice to see +195

Keep up the good work
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Re: KTF

February 21, 2016, 3:50 pm
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off hand the average hits in 37 spins are 24 numbers right? so after 10 uniques we should have 14 wins on KTF? 24 minus 10 is 14
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Re: KTF

February 21, 2016, 4:03 pm
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yes, but i work on 40 spins
interested in spins11-40, those 30 spins on avg 15 non-hit, but its where the 15 repeats come, so you have to watch the trot, find away/your way to read the trot,its all about 0x,1x then the >1x.
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Re: KTF

February 21, 2016, 4:16 pm
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I like to get a few repeaters straight after our 10 spins. Then go in..... didn't failed me yet.
Can't say it enough. ...Thx Notto!

@Jimmy B. ....what you mean ? The software or the casino ?
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Re: KTF

February 21, 2016, 4:20 pm
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RG
KTF started out for me just betting off the non-hit, that machine of death that i play on just seemed to catch me out after some time,so i'd go back to the drawing board,come at it a different way, again and again.
Then i come across GUT and boom it hit me The trot that Winkel and Azim where talking about. Me betting non-hit, but it was seeing the trot,how those pesky 1x's mucked me up, so i learnt when i could bet 1x+>1x together, or 0x+1x, i learnt how to mix them up.
Perhaps if Winkel could have gone on, he might have shown his way to bet just more than the one crossing.

The avg doc its all info, the more info you have, will help show the trot. What about watching the profit,it has a trot + then - back up is it time to take a small profit, Jump,restart what did the Guvnor Winkel say its you decision.
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Re: KTF

February 22, 2016, 7:52 pm
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Quote from: RouletteGhost on Yesterday at 11:07:52 PM
I know i sound like an idiot with the questions

But you mean wait until 15 non hit then bet the non hits with +1 -1

We want 21 uniqies then go in?

 :lol:

-RG

Repeat after me "I am not an idiot...I am not an idiot...I am not an idiot..." OK now we can continue. :lol:

To answer your question:
You do not need 21 uniques.

Just take the last 10 numbers and work with them as explained in all these pages.
No fancy progressions just +1/-1.
Do not try to reinvent KTF it works fine as presented.

Learn to read the trot.
I think that you are involved in so many different systems you are just confusing yourself.
If you want to play around with different systems that is fine but KTF takes a lot of time, effort and studying to master.
If you want to play to make money then concentrate on KTF until you understand it.

As I said before, KTF has a steep learning curve but it does work IF you take the time to read the information available in this thread, the Jackpot Joy thread and anything to do with Winkels GUT procedure(s), especially on the VLS forum.

I hope this helps.

-Celtic
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Re: KTF

February 22, 2016, 8:50 pm
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Today I decided to see how well I understand the teachings of KTF, the trot and GUT.
Refer to the attached sheet for some further explanations.

I decided I would bet as long as possible using my current knowledge of KTF and the trot and see how long I could last.
BR was $400

In the end I bet a total of 53 spins continuously.

It turned out that this would be done in 3  back to back sessions.
This was controlled by the trot not me.

Session 1
OK so I the first session I obtained the last ten numbers and bet for non hits.
This session only lasted 5 spins and I was up $35

Session 2
I decided to take the last 10 numbers spun and start a new session betting for the non hit numbers again.
This session consisted of a total of 24 spins and it went negative right from the start.
As a matter of fact I stayed at a negative balance until the very last spin and quit with a profit of $30.

Spin 14 of this session had a $204 drawdown but it did not worry me because the trot said I should recover.
Notice I said should and not would. Remember we are still gambling and we could lose......

OK after winning $65 for both those sessions I noticed that the trot said that repeats were way overdue so I decided to bet for the repeats in session 3.

After spin 11 in session 3 I was up $32 but the the trot was still good for repeats and my next bet was only $20 so if I lost I would have quit the session and still had a profit of $12 giving me a total of $77 for all three sessions.

As it turned out the next spin was a winner and I was up to $49 and only betting $18 so I decided to continue betting until my first loss.
The trot was still good.
I won the next two spins and had a session profit of $86 so far.
I lost the next spin (#14) with a bet of $16 and quit with a session 3 profit of $70.

So the total profit for the 53 spins was $35+$30+$70=$135

To summarize I have to say that I would never do this again.
It was so mentally intense to stay on top of everything going on it would not have taken much to lose track.

I am retired and this was done in mid afternoon when there were only one to two other players at the wheel so I am sure that this helped a lot.

Please note that the sheet does not show Numbers 31-36 in the block where you mark what numbers to bet and which are hit.
All Six of those numbers were bet on. (This shows in the same area of Session 2).

I hope this is helpful to answering some questions you guys may have.

-Celtic
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Re: hey hey hey

February 22, 2016, 10:05 pm
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Woah, Mr J got on the Stephen Colbert show, and i can't believe it, Stephen called him out on the size of the chips Mr J says he uses, calling it some kind of "stunt".  Well, Mr J wasn't having none of it and stood up.  Next thing you know Stephen is attacking Mr J.  Mr J had to stop acting long enough to defend himself!  Well too much to explain, just see the video for yourself! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUvhNlGV0s
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Re: Marla1: A 'Three-Two-One' Street Reducing System

February 22, 2016, 11:09 pm
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This one's not working out :q

--scrap--
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Re: hey hey hey

February 22, 2016, 11:29 pm
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